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Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » ven. 22 janv. 2021 09:42

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » ven. 22 janv. 2021 09:42

Shannon Appelcline (le spécialiste des Elfes, voir son bouquin 2ème Age chez Mongoose ainsi que ses articles dans Tradetalk & Hearts In Glorantha) prépare un livre officiel RQG pour Chaosium sur les Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs).

En attendant, il propose de courts nouveaux mythes aldryami.
Voici le 1er (accès libre sur Facebook sans compte):
A NEW ALDRYAMI MYTH

In the late '90s and early '00s I was working on what eventually became a pair of books about the Aldryami, one for Issaries (and HeroQuest) and one for Mongoose (and their variant of RuneQuest). As part of my preparation for that work, I wrote about 20 short Aldryami myths, most of them in service to theme issues of Tradetalk magazine.

I am now once more starting work on an Aldryami book, this to be the be-all and end-all, for my preferred Glorantha system, Chaosium's original RuneQuest (yay!). And as part of that I've decided to start writing new myths, which I'll post here every few weeks.

And here's the first new Aldryami myth that I've written since 2006 ...

How the Forests Became Twisted and Tangled
A Myth of the Red Age collected by Sahania Whitebirch for the Great Library of Nochet
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I suspect I could write scores of Aldryami myths at the moment, some of them filling the conceptual gaps in the myths I wrote to date, some of them filling the event gaps, and some of them telling the stories of the cycles of Aldryami deities that Greg I discovered in the '90s (and which I then expanded).

But, for this first new myth I wanted something simple, that wasn't diving deep into the whole mythic cycle. Having just read through my old stories, I was struck by one I'd written called "The Descent of Plants", which appeared in Tradetalk #12. It gave a Gloranthan explanation for why plants were different sizes. So I started pondering on what other just-so stories I could write, to explain things about Glorantha's plant life. I came up with the idea of "How the Nettle Got Its Sting". I wrote pretty freely from there, and this is what I came up with. (I changed the name on one of my last edits.)
Note: Shannon Appelcline interdit la recopie de ses mythes sans autorisation, d'où seulement le lien.
Bref, merci de ne pas poster une traduction sans son accord.
En attendant, un copier / coller dans
https://www.deepl.com/translator
fonctionne bien!

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » lun. 25 janv. 2021 09:10

Aldryami Myth #2 par Shannon Appelcline:
I began work proper on the RQ:G Elf Pack last week, pulling in 3.5k or so words from my unpublished "Oak & Thorn" manuscript overviewing the Aldryami's story of God Time (one of the few bits I'll be reusing).
It was a good way to start because it got me thinking about all the other sections of the book and eager to begin writing them.
Meanwhile, here's a new Aldryami myth:.

“The First Drought”
A Myth of the Red Age told by Bahalia Bitterbark of Tarndisi’s Grove

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » mer. 27 janv. 2021 09:26

Shannon Appelcline:
Aldryami Voices I: The Protectors
My first writing about the Aldryami was for The Books of Drastic Resolutions.
The editor focused each Book upon a rune, and requested short responses for what various peoples thought about it.
So I wrote elf points-of-view for the Chaos, Darkness, and Water issues (the last of which was never published: I rediscovered the snippet last month).
My earliest snippet, on Chaos, has since been repudiated. I was still learning about the elves' balances, and accidentally equated the Taker with chaos.
(I'm sure there are elves who think that way, but they are a minority).
By the time I wrote about Darkness and Water, I better understood Aldryami philosophy.
When I started collecting together my elf myths, I of course included these "Aldryami Voices", but I only had two of the elves' six elements, missing Earth and Light on the side of the Protectors and Stone and the sixth element that's alternatively been called Dust, Snow, and Fire on the side of the Pretenders.
So wrote them today.

Here's the Aldryami Voices about the Grower's three elements:
“What is Light?”
Words of Wisdom from Bahalia Bitterbark of Tarndisi’s Grove

“What is Earth?”
Words of Wisdom from Fethela Fodronu

“What is Water?”
Words of Wisdom from Tanos Hardspine, Aldryami of the Pavis Rubble

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » mar. 2 févr. 2021 10:04

Shannon Appelcline:
Good news: I'm working on an Elf Pack for RQ:G right now. We've got a nine-month schedule for it, which will hopefully see it in a complete turnover draft by the end of September.
(And after that's done and published, I find it likely some more material will appear on Jonstown Compendium, for material that doesn't fit in the Elf Pack. It will probably be a 2022 project, after Elf Pack is thoroughly put to bed, but my head is bubbling with red elves, black elves, hero cults, and the forest overviews from Oak & Thorn, all things that are out-of-scope for a Dragon Pass focused Pack.)
(I also handed RPGnet over to a new editor-in-chief last year, and I've now got 2-3 personal writing days on my schedule every week for my own projects, which at this point are primarily Designers & Dragons: The Lost Histories and Elf Pack.)
A Listing of Aldryami Deities

I collected them together in a format that I hadn't used before that better represented some of my early discussions with Greg about them being sequential "plantings".
It also let me connect up some material from different sources, and led me to discover some diagrams that I drew 15 years ago and had since forgotten about.
So here you go, a listing of the Aldryami's spirits/songs/themes/gods.

Missing: heroes and some of the Iri fragments.

Dramatis Prospaedia: The Grower

Potential. The unworshiped potential of the universe.

The First Planting

The Grower. Potential reborn as the unworshiped creator of all things.

The Second Planting

Eron. The healing waters. A piece of the Grower, and one of the Protectors.
Gata. The broken earth. A piece of the Grower, and one of the Protectors.
Halamalao. The warm sun. A piece of the Grower, and one of the Protectors.
Falamal. The Grower reborn in the world, father of all plants.

The Pure Seeding

Aldrya. The first seed planted in Gata.
Haldrya. The first seed planted in Halamalao.
Murthdraya. The first seed planted in Eron.
Seyotel. The song that connects all life.

The Sundering of Seyotel

Eirennor. The first Seer: Aldryami perception.
Larayse. The first Mover: Aldryami mobility.
Trileme. The first Doer: Aldryami action.

The Third Planting

Bengara. Death-to-live, the power to prune, the Grower reborn to embody the Balance.
Veratha. Life-after-life, rebirth, the Grower reborn to embody the Cycle.

The Hybrid Seeding

Mee Vorala. The first plant grown in Trigora, a life in death.
Slor. The first spore, equal parts life and death.

Dramatis Prospaedia: The Taker

The First Planting

The Taker. Potential reborn as the unworshiped destroyer of all things.

The Second Planting

Ekeem. The sterile stone. A piece of the Taker, and one of the Pretenders.
Iri. The enshrouding dust. A piece of the Taker, and one of the Pretenders.
Zasara. The dark sun. A piece of the Taker, and one of the Pretenders.
Bebester. The unworshiped Taker reborn in the world, the great pruner.

The Sundering of Iri

Iniri. The freezing snow. A fragment of Iri, and a lesser Pretender.
Kitipah. The burning flame. A fragment of Iri, and a lesser Pretender.

The Third Planting

Ferotha. Live-to-die, natural death, the Taker reborn to embody the Cycle.
Trigora. Death-after-death, the Underworld, the Taker reborn to upset the Balance.

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Notes suplémentaires:

> Which of these survived the Darkness? Which are still worshipped?

The Protectors are all wounded: Halamalao isn't as bright (and isn't at the top of the Sky Dome), Gata is broken into thousands of pieces; and Eron has definitely been damaged, but different myths give different descriptions of that (he took some fire into himself, he wept, he bled, he gave control of the oceans to Magasta).

Haldrya is lost, along with all the white elves.

As for "survived", that's a funny question, because Glorantha and Trigora (the Underworld) are just two parts of the Cycle. I know that at least one of the "spiritual songs" dwells in Trigora. Maybe Larayse. But that doesn't stop Aldryami from communicating with him/her/it. (Technically, all three of the spiritual songs died, because they were normal plants that developed the ability to sense, to move, and to act, but I don't know if they're all still in Trigora or not.)

And there's certainly been a lot of movement between the Underworld and Glorantha: all of the Mreli and all of the Makisanti for a start. And there have definitely been rumors and prophecies that the Vronkali who were planted during Aldrya's Woe will be returning.

Oh, and worshipped? The vast majority of Aldryami worship Aldrya (or Murthdrya). After that, small minorities probably follow Falamal, Eron, Halamalao, and Gata. Then Bengara and Veratha. There are also some very few "dark" elves who follow Ekeem, Iri, and Zasara. The others (the "spiritual songs" in the top triangle) are more abstractions and powers.

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » ven. 5 févr. 2021 09:15

Shannon Appelcline:
Aldryami Voices II: The Pretenders
Here's the other half of the "Voices" that I put together offering Aldryami perceptions of the three bad elements.
Also see:
Prospaedia: https://deadcrows.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 494#p20494
The Protectors: https://deadcrows.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 467#p20467
As I've said, this is partially in service to producing the long-awaited ElfPack, and that got a genuine start this month. An Intro and an overview of the Elf Mythos came in at 6k, which is 6% of a planned first draft.

“What is Darkness?”
Words of Wisdom from Tanos Hardspine, Aldryami of the Pavis Rubble

“What is Stone?”
Words of Wisdom from Bahalia Bitterbark of Tarndisi’s Grove

“What is Dust?”
Words of Wisdom from Fethela Fodronu

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » lun. 8 févr. 2021 08:52

Aldryami Myth #3 par Shannon Appelcline:
The wife and I have lately been reading Kauai Tales, which has folk lore from the island of Kauai. We agree that the stories aren't the most interesting, but that we love the insights they offer into ancient Kauai culture.
So I tried to take that tack in this latest myth. Well, the bit about offering insights into culture, not about being less interesting. We'll see how I succeeded.

“The Pruner Finds His Shears”
The First Trial of Pulimaora Gardener from the Chronicles of Fethela Fodronu

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » mar. 16 févr. 2021 09:59

Aldryami Myth #4 par Shannon Appelcline:
For Valentine's Day, a story of flowers.

The Bee-Keeper Plays His Trick
The Second Trial of Pulimaora Gardener from the Chronicles of Fethela Fodronu

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » mar. 23 févr. 2021 10:00

Aldryami Myth #5 par Shannon Appelcline:
This was a myth that I wrote to explain the title "Gata Talker" that I'd mentioned in the previous tale and to focus on some of the greatest mythical creatures of the Gods' Time.

“THE DIPLOMAT FACES THE GIANTS”
The Third Trial of Pulimaora Gardener from the Chronicles of Fethela Fodronu

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Re: Aldryami (Dryades, Elfes, Pixies, Coureurs)

Message par 7Tigers » sam. 6 mars 2021 11:19

Le Monde des Plantes par Greg Stafford
Entering into the world of mythology can be a dangerous task. One of the greatest dangers is the assumption of Truth. Truth is not usually what one expects it to be, especially in the world where the gods live.
I think that we inevitably project our own Truth upon even the world of the gods when we visit it. We, when there, are still the Small Gods, and we are utterly incapable of understanding the entirety of a mythological event. So we perceive that event in the manner which is true to us.
If we visit again and revisit that mythological terrain, and it maintains its stability for us, even when we interact either consciously or in self defense, we take it to be a true mythic vision.
However, even that firm Truth may not be infallible. Other creatures, even other beings in that same vision, may perceive and participate in the exact same events but with a different understanding, experience, and Truth.
Nonetheless, despite these apparent differences, both are True. Harana Ilor lives in many places in the mythic world.

To illustrate some differences, here are two creation stories about the Green Age, both pretty much including the same events and many of the same entities. Both are true.

The Human Story
. The First Tree
. Aldrya

The Elf Story
. The First Plantings
. The Second Plantings
. The Third Planting

The Grafting Experiment
A lire ici.

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